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'She's lying!': Jeremy Christian disputes detective's testimony during MAX stabbing trial

A detective who interviewed Christian in the days after the stabbing attack took the stand Wednesday.

PORTLAND, Ore. — Warning: The following article contains graphic language, images and depictions of brutal violence pertaining to the MAX train attack that may be troubling to readers.

The seventh day of Jeremy Christian's trial got underway Wednesday with Michele Michaels, a Portland Police Bureau detective who interviewed Christian in the aftermath of the deadly MAX stabbing.

Christian is accused of going on a hateful rant aimed at two black teen girls aboard that TriMet MAX train on May 26, 2017. An altercation followed between Christian and two other men, Fletcher and Taliesin Namkai-Meche, and quickly escalated as the three men were chest-to-chest. 

Fletcher shoved Christian twice, and Christian told him, "Hit me again, hit me again." Prosecutors say Christian then took a 4-inch knife from the pocket of his shorts and stabbed Fletcher, Namkai-Meche and another passenger, Ricky Best. 

Best and Namkai-Meche died. Fletcher was gravely wounded, but survived. The knife barely missed a main artery that would have killed him. 

The defense and state submitted their opening arguments earlier in the week. Christian's lawyers argued their client used self-defense in the attack, because he felt like he was being assaulted by Fletcher. 

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Det. Michaels testified she spent some time interviewing Christian in a holding cell the night of the stabbing. She said she had heard about Christian’s interactions with Demetria Hester, the black woman who pepper sprayed Christian after he went on a hateful rant aboard a MAX train the night before the attacks. Christian, in turn, threw a bottle at Hester, leaving her with a black eye. 

When Michaels asked Christian about this interaction, Christian said, "if the f****** fare inspector wasn’t around, I would have stabbed her."

'I don't feel one bit remorseful'

In an interview two days after the stabbings, Michaels asked Christian why he stabbed Best, Namkai-Meche and Fletcher.

"He said, 'I can’t explain, there’s no way I can explain. They would have been alive if they would have kept their hands to themselves or got off the train, or allowed me to have my free speech. Only because they started getting violent with me, they signed their own death warrant. I don’t feel one bit remorseful about that,'" Michaels testified. 

The state also presented several more surveillance and cell phone videos from inside the MAX train that day. 

Michaels testified Christian had made a "slicing motion" across his throat, before the altercation started between Christian, Fletcher and Namkai-Meche.

"This is the time when we see Mr. Forde moves forward, goes up to girls, and as Mr. Forde moves forward, you can see on video Mr. Christian makes a slicing motion across his neck," Michaels testified.

Michaels then talked through Christian’s actions during his confrontation with Fletcher and Namkai-Meche, after Christian threw Namkai-Meche’s phone. 

"What I’m noting is, no one has touched [Christian] at this point… he has pushed Namkai-Meche and Fletcher, and got a knife out of pocket and is saying, 'Do something, b*****, do something!'"

According to Michaels' testimony, Christian was holding the 4-inch knife in his left hand at this point. Fletcher shoved him three times, and Christian switched the knife into his right hand. Seconds later, Christian is seen on video stabbing all three men. 

Christian disputes testimony

During this testimony, Christian started shaking his head in response. The prosecuting attorney alerted the judge, and Christian responded, "We just watched the video and she's lying! It's clear that's what she did!"

Christian was warned by the judge to not speak unless he’s talking to his lawyer or testifying.  

Michaels also presented the state with evidence of the items Christian was carrying with him the day of the stabbing: a blue backpack, a cell phone charger, a printed picture, a bladder of wine and three books [The Book of Mormon, The Sagas of Icelanders, and The Exegesis of Philip A. Dick]. 

In the afternoon, the prosecution called two character witnesses; Erik Best, Best's son, and Vajara Alaya-Maitreya, Namkai-Meche's older sister.

The prosecution rested its case shortly after, and a juror was dismissed - but not discharged - for financial hardship. 

The defense will present their case starting Monday, because they have witnesses flying in for the trial. In the meantime, legal matters surrounding the case will be discussed Thursday morning, but the jury will not be present. 

Complete coverage: The Jeremy Christian trial

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