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Damascus citizens consider 'No Means No' vote on mass transit

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by Randy Neves

Posted on January 14, 2010 at 1:05 AM

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DAMASCUS, Ore. -- If a new city ballot measure is successful in Damascus, any future light rail projects there would be decided a vote of the people.

Dan Phegley's group called Ask Damascus is behind the ballot measure. If government is even thinking about putting light rail in his city without a public vote, he wants to nip in the bud.

"By putting it in the city charter (this would) make it so that the voters are in control," said Phegley.

The so-called "No Means No" ballot measure would also restrict the city's ability to contract for transit service with any single agency - such as TriMet - without voter approval.

"Damascus has a lot of opportunity, as it grows, to add transit," said TriMet spokesperson Mary Fetsch. TriMet says it would be more than happy to serve Damascus if the city and Metro regional government asked for it.

But Metro tells KGW News it has no plan to extend its new, nearby MAX Green Line train to Damascus.

Phegley doesn't believe that and he doesn't want to take chances because of the potential expense.

"We don't really need the crime out there. We have enough problems with government. I don't know what we'd do if we had criminals running around, too," said Phegley.

Damascus City Manager Jim Bennett is trying to plan for a significant population growth spurt - and that plan should include mass transit, he said.

"We're trying to make a much more walkable community in Damascus so you don't have to drive every place you need to go to," said Bennett.

Sue Shaw of Damascus questions whether walkability equals progress. She too is reluctant to welcome any sort of mass transit.

"We're trying to live in the country but obviously it's going to come to that," she said.

Metro insists that it doesn't find Damascus ready for light rail - and isn't sure it work well there, anyway. At least not yet.

Regardless, Phegley's group wants the choice to belong to city voters.

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jaemes said on January 14, 2010 at 5:42 AM

I think Metro should keep Damascus completely isolated as they wish. Let there be at least one community held up as an example of what happens when they get the growth but little to no goverment infastructure. When they come crying for help they should be told.. No mean No.

spewie said on January 14, 2010 at 7:50 AM

I can't blame them. I didn't want the Crime-Line in my neighborhood, but govt. always knows what's best for you. It wouldn't be so bad if Crime-Net would do something about all the bangers, thugs, gutter monkeys, derelicts, and homeless with multiple pit bulls....Si Se Puede!

augustmoon said on January 14, 2010 at 7:57 AM

What Damascus needs to do is to set up hitching posts for horses -- maybe outside City Hall, Papa Murphy's and Bi-mart.

washcomom said on January 14, 2010 at 8:04 AM

I, for one, applaud this. Whenever we vote "no" to light rail extensions, WES rail, or other transit "improvements", we are never heard and government does what it wants to. Bravo!

thefirstgramma said on January 14, 2010 at 8:30 AM

Let's just build a wall around Damascus, it's a festering hole anyway.

adamg said on January 14, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Damascus should be cut off from expansion. We know miles and miles of suburbs with road networks disconnects people, raises costs, and causes sparwl. If that community is ignorant to think they can grow without sustainable transit systems they're going to pay a lot more to install transit when they need it further down the road. Like when they have to buy up all sorts of property 20-30 years from now to install the system. I don't think its reasonable for Damascus to get light rail yet, but maybe in 10 years they should have it. Limiting options for the citizens will not be very popular when gas is over $7 a gallon and these people are upset that they can't afford to drive everywhere anymore. Sure, cloister yourself to avoid some taxes, you'll pay eventually anyways. It would be smarter to pay for light rail you can use to keep your costs down.

surah said on January 14, 2010 at 10:00 AM

I completely understand the Damascus' residents wanting to be excluded from the extension of the Green-Line. Whether it be about taxes or not, I think it's totally unncessary to have a MAX train out there. Buses would be fine - but a MAX? The population is so sparse that there wouldn't even many riders. Also, it is a nice, quiet community and they definitely don't need the crime out there. I can completely understand that.

shallowend said on January 14, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Perfectly reasonable on their part. I also understand this group wants to rename the city NIMBY or IGMGL (I Got Mine! Get Lost!)

boringdog said on January 14, 2010 at 6:00 PM

I don't blame Damascus either just ride the Max through Rockwood some night better yet get off at 162nd. and hang out with those little twelve year old girls. TriMet should change thier slogan from "see where it takes you" to SEE WHAT IT BRINGS YOU. I lived in Rockwood before light rail went through it and it had allot of apartments complexes even back then but nowhere near the crime problems. So all you tree huggin cry baby liberals who think mass transit should be shoved down everyones throat, I seen a for rent sign at 162nd. and Burnside want me stop and get you an application?

sp_redelectric said on January 14, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Metro likes to cite that it will only permit development where it is affordable to extend infrastructure to. TriMet can't even afford a basic service within its 40 year old established boundary -- how can TriMet even remotely think about serving a new service area? I'm with Damascus. They already voted out of the TriMet district because they were tired of paying TriMet taxes for no service. This is another step to ensure that Metro doesn't override their voter approved voice, and dictate future transportation decisions that have no local voice. Their next step should be to vote out Metro. Just like Washington County ought to.

last__boyscout said on January 15, 2010 at 10:10 AM

What a concept!!!! Actually allowing the lowly peasant population that ultimately PAYS for all of the bloated wasteful liberal government spending getting to decide where their tax dollars are spent. This has to drive the liberal democrat unions and their cronies crazy. It's time the government parasites stop living off of the rest of us.